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You: hi

Stranger: hey :)

You: wanna have a pointless political debate?

Stranger: sure!

You: gay marriage: for or against?

Stranger: for

You: me too

Stranger: good :)

You: im an atheist

You: u?

Stranger: i'm catholic...sorta. My family's catholic.

You: okay

You: why are you catholic?

Stranger: because... my family is?

You: but do you have any logical reasons to believe in the existence of a supreme deity?

You: any empirical evidence?

Stranger: nope. just makes you feel better to think that there's something helpin you along.

You: that doesnt make it true

You: a man may be happy at the thought that there's a diamond the size of a refrigerator in hi backyard

You: but hes still crazy

Stranger: no it doesn't. who says i say it's true? reincarnation'd be pretty sweet too. anything that means there's more to life than just this one.

You: but a notion that makes you happy isnt necessarily true

You: so thats no reason to believe

You: assuming u care about the truth

Stranger: like a said before, it doesn't have to be true. if there really is no life after this, i'd rather be happy now then spending my life dreading the end

You: but if you recognize that this is the only life you;ve got, you'll more likely live it to the fullest

You: instead of counting on a pipe dream

Stranger: but if you recognize that this is the only life, that's on your mind and you realize you can't do much with yourself, because you're not going to live to see the results.

You: its not about living to see the results

You: its about making life better 4 every1

Stranger: by preaching that there is no hope?

You: no by preaching that this is your only life, so live it to the fullest

You: by fighting for equality, social and economic

You: by fighting to give food to the starving

You: by fighting to embetter medicine to make our lives longer

You: by fighting violence in all its forms

Stranger: you can do that and be religious. Mother Theresa? Ghandi?

Stranger: Martin Luther King Jr?

You: by fighing bronze-aged superstitions that cause attrocities like the holocaust, the inquisition, the mistreatment of women, 9/11

You: but anyway, a comforting belief can be wrong

You: you're commiting the fallacy of wishful thinking

You: an argumentum at consequentiam

Stranger: you can't prove that things like love and happiness exist, so they could be untrue. Those emotions still make us happy, don't they?

You: no we actually can prove that love and happiness exist

You: weve studied the brain and know exactly what chemicals signal and cause them

You: the difference is that emotions THEMSELVES make us happy

Stranger: you can prove that there are hormones in the brain. but there are hormone imbalances that exist. the people and brains that have been tested could have had imbalences

You: not the CONCEPT of emotuon

Stranger: and who is to say that it isn't god HIMSELF making us happy when we feel joy?

You: we already know what causes joy

You: enorphins for one

You: thats why drugs are pleasurable

Stranger: endorphins? cause the feeling of joy, not actual joy.

You: joy is a feeling

You: you're now commiting the no true costman fallacy

You: ^scotsman

Stranger: no, it causes the guise of joy. Drugs don't acutally make you happy, they convince you that you're happy by causing imbalances in your brain.

You: happiness IS an imbalance in the brain

You: if it werent for those chemicals that your brain releases and the firing of neurons, happiness would not exist

Stranger: why not "fire off those neurons" by believing that there is a better life out there, rather than killing yourself and ruining the one you have with drugs?

You: so you think we should believe anything that makes us happy, regardless of its veracity?

Stranger: why not?

Stranger: i'd rather be happy than wallow in self pity

You: if believing there's an invisible pink unicorn in my shoe that wil give me a cake after i die for every woman i rape, thats okay/

You: ?

Stranger: that's the dumbest shit i've ever heard, that's not even a legitimate argument. THAT would be what we call the crazies and it would be time to lock you away

Stranger: time out. Obama or McCain?

You: but an invisible sky daddy that controls everything and will let you live forever and torture ppl 4ever but loves everyone is sane?

You: i dont like either

You: but obama is better i guess

Stranger: good man! :)

You: i dont like his position on prenatal rights

Stranger: you don't like abortion?

You: no i dont

You: y?

Stranger: just makin sure. that's one issue i don't really like to get into ever.

You: oh

You: y not?

Stranger: Because of my religion and my family, basically.

You: explain?

Stranger: Catholicism (and living in super conservative and religious Kansas) has pretty much ruined my points of view on most of the major issues. I can't really lean either way for fear of being rejected.

Stranger: the only issue i'm sure and certain on is that I support gay marriage wholeheartedly.

You: oh okay

You: thats another benefit of atheism

You: freethought

Stranger: true. i don't entirely believe in god. I'm more of a deist (i think that's how you spell it)

Stranger: so that's why i'm only sort of catholic

You: oh ok

You: deism says nothing about an afterlife

You: I'm a humanist, so I oppose abortion on the grounds that human life has value.

Stranger: yeah, that's the reason why i'm sort of catholic too? i dunno what i am really.

You: maybe unitarian?

Stranger: whas that?

You: not sure

Stranger: lol

You: more liberal christian denomination

Stranger: cool? haha, i don't really know how that'd go :P

You: id have 2 look it up

You: but may you find the denomination that fits you

You: :)

Stranger: yeah. well, i have a choir concert to go to! peace, mann! had fun talkin to you :)

You: ok

You: :)

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